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Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 23 Oct 2018 22:06
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There is another handy elite state litter coming through that aren't too far off starting.
To answer your question in the heading yes I think it won't be long and people will start using a lot of straws from sires that are 10y.o plus only because there is no doubt that the older sires like solve the puzzle, just the best, surf lorian, el grand senor, magic sprite, go wild teddy, most awesome, brett lee, elite state etc. definitely put more chase into their offspring. Even sires that could go either way like token prince and collision threw more consistently than what's the flavours now.
Even our recent million dollar chase winner has a ticket and was moved on by a big name trainer. Not because of ability but consistent chase.
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 23 Oct 2018 23:24
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I hope so Sandro as I purchased a Royal Assassin Straw awhile back and although not a breeder myself I intend to offer it on a pup basis possibly. I think a Magic Sprite or Oaks Road bitch would be perfect, Cheers
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 24 Oct 2018 00:40
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 24 Oct 2018 02:51
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Exactly Sandro. It's good to see breeders using them & by the looks of it, City winning results are still flowing in. Just this year the following sires aged between 11 years to 28 years old (yes 1990) have produced winner(s) on Metro-City-Meetings.
Goodesy (2007) Outa Credit (2007) Knocka Norris (2006) Velocette (2006) Nitro Burst (2006) College Causeway (2006) Bit Chili (2005) Kinloch Brae (2005) Vee Man Vane (2005) Train A Journey (2004) Black Enforcer (2003) Vapour Whirl (2003) Pure Octane (2003) Trewly Special (2002) Whisky Assassin (2002) Premier Fantasy (2002) Collide (2002) Surf Lorian (2002) Where's Pedro (2002) Bombastic Shiraz (2001) Collision (2001) Elite State (2001) Head Bound (2000) Kiowa Sweet Trey (2000) Primo Uno (2000) Brett Lee (1999) Go Wild Teddy (1998) Flying Penske (1997) History Lesson (1997) Just The Best (1997) Solve The Puzzle (1996) Spiral Nikita (1994) Roanokee (1994) EJ's Douglas (1990)
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 24 Oct 2018 03:15
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sounds like someone has some stored frozen for sale... :-)
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 24 Oct 2018 03:22
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I'll declare my hand Malcolm - 0....for the first time in 10 or so years.
Ryan Vanderwert Australia (Verified User) Posts 5958 Dogs 8 / Races 0 24 Oct 2018 04:28
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michael worth wrote:
I hope so Sandro as I purchased a Royal Assassin Straw awhile back and although not a breeder myself I intend to offer it on a pup basis possibly. I think a Magic Sprite or Oaks Road bitch would be perfect, Cheers
Royal Assassin is very closely related to Buck Fever CLICK HERE .
Michael Brcic Australia (Verified User) Posts 1475 Dogs 4 / Races 23 24 Oct 2018 05:53
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I got criticised for offering a Big Daddy Cool Vial on a pup deal just recently. Received comments such as he's well past it, there's much better options out there these days and lol get a Fernando Bale straw. I personally think there's some fantastic Sires from yesteryear that are real quality that provide fantastic value these days. I for one will not hesitate to use these type of Sires. I'll take a dog like Leeroy Rogue any day!
Michael Barry Australia (Verified User) Posts 7405 Dogs 26 / Races 9 24 Oct 2018 07:02
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
sounds like someone has some stored frozen for sale... :-)
i have none either for sale they are all gone over the last 18 months i purchased one two weeks ago for a mating next month but a present day active sire
Michael Worth Australia (Verified User) Posts 875 Dogs 2 / Races 0 24 Oct 2018 17:57
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Yes looks good Ryan, I guess I was just thinking of the proven crosses the Bartolo family made famous. Spiral Nikita, Brett Lee and the Leprechaun dam line. Cheers
Brian Loughnane Ireland (Verified User) Posts 2514 Dogs 107 / Races 6 24 Oct 2018 18:51
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Iv 4 solve the puzzle straws might use them soon
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 24 Oct 2018 21:07
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Malcolm Smart wrote:
sounds like someone has some stored frozen for sale... :-)
I haven't got any frozen stored anywhere either and short of fluking a Kinloch brae or premier fantasy straw for sale at a I don't want it anymore price and not a its hard to find now so i'll have a gouge price I won't be buying a straw until a broodie comes on season.
Dan Hollywood Australia (Verified User) Posts 4166 Dogs 3 / Races 3 24 Oct 2018 21:07
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michael brcic wrote:
I got criticised for offering a Big Daddy Cool Vial on a pup deal just recently. Received comments such as he's well past it, there's much better options out there these days and lol get a Fernando Bale straw. I personally think there's some fantastic Sires from yesteryear that are real quality that provide fantastic value these days. I for one will not hesitate to use these type of Sires. I'll take a dog like Leeroy Rogue any day!
If 200 BDC breeder units were available and breeders used them he would be a leading sire again in no time. CLICK HERE
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 24 Oct 2018 21:14
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there was a El Grand Senor straw on one of the facebook sale pages the other day asking $6000 because apparently Carolyn Jones (el grands stud master) is keeping all her remaining straws from him. it's not carolyn's fault and you have sympathy for her, but people see a opportunity to have a gouge.
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 24 Oct 2018 21:22
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steven martin wrote:
Just this year the following sires aged between 11 years to 28 years old (yes 1990) have produced winner(s) on Metro-City-Meetings.
Goodesy (2007) Outa Credit (2007) Knocka Norris (2006) Velocette (2006) Nitro Burst (2006) College Causeway (2006) Bit Chili (2005) Kinloch Brae (2005) Vee Man Vane (2005) Train A Journey (2004) Black Enforcer (2003) Vapour Whirl (2003) Pure Octane (2003) Trewly Special (2002) Whisky Assassin (2002) Premier Fantasy (2002) Collide (2002) Surf Lorian (2002) Where's Pedro (2002) Bombastic Shiraz (2001) Collision (2001) Elite State (2001) Head Bound (2000) Kiowa Sweet Trey (2000) Primo Uno (2000) Brett Lee (1999) Go Wild Teddy (1998) Flying Penske (1997) History Lesson (1997) Just The Best (1997) Solve The Puzzle (1996) Spiral Nikita (1994) Roanokee (1994) EJ's Douglas (1990)
There are a fair few names there that people would be bombarding if they were readily available still. (hindsight is a nice thing)
Glenn Hatton Australia (Verified User) Posts 4852 Dogs 92 / Races 98 25 Oct 2018 00:09
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Interesting list Steve.
EGS-$6000?!
Wow
Matt Griffiths Australia (Verified User) Posts 1955 Dogs 56 / Races 2 25 Oct 2018 02:55
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Glenn Hatton wrote:
EGS-$6000?!
Wow
Was just someone trying what they can get away with. He was $2000 his whole stud career, people won't cop his straws being much more expensive for a long while
Grant Thomas Australia (Verified User) Posts 11447 Dogs 64 / Races 20 25 Oct 2018 12:21
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Ryan Vanderwert wrote:
michael worth wrote:
I hope so Sandro as I purchased a Royal Assassin Straw awhile back and although not a breeder myself I intend to offer it on a pup basis possibly. I think a Magic Sprite or Oaks Road bitch would be perfect, Cheers
Royal Assassin is very closely related to Buck Fever CLICK HERE .
Ryan...interested to hear what you think of R.A. over a Kinloch Brae bitch...
Do you have questions about breeding theories? 
