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Tony Gallagher
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06 Jul 2019 03:33


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Are there any greyhound groups in Ireland going to take any action in response to the RTE programme that aired recently?

If so please post in this thread so that all greyhound people can know what is going on and can support you.

If all groups are going off in different directions nothing can be achieved.

Now is the time to be united and to be transparent.

The only way to move forward is to stop defending ourselves and start disproving the lies being told.



Tony Gallagher
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06 Jul 2019 05:22


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Lets start looking at the programme, what was shown and what was said:

"They have had so much EPO pumped into them that their blood is like trinkle"

WRONG - regular tests are done on all racing greyhounds and this is not the case. Also if you had proof of this was it reported to the IGB so that they could investigate?

"Typically a dogs racing career lasts just 7 months"

WRONG - A greyhound usually starts racing at 18 months and usually is retired between 3 years 6 months and 4 years.

"Ireland is one of only 8 countries where you still find greyhound racing"

WRONG - Off the top of my head I can list 22 countries where you can find greyhound racing.

Ireland, Australia, UK, USA, Belgium, Brazil, Chile, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Netherlands, New Zealand, Pakistan, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Slovakia, Spain.

This is all in the first 3.52 minutes of the programme. If anyone can add to the list of things wrong with the show please post them here so we can get a complete list of all inaccuracies.



Padjoe Dorney
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06 Jul 2019 08:02


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The Irish Greyhound Owners And Breeders Federation representing Galway, Kerry, Limerick and Clare, Northern (Brandywell and Drumbo), Tipperary, Waterford and Wexford Greyhound Owners and Breeders Associations unreservedly condemns animal cruelty and illegal practices and we expect the highest standards of welfare for greyhounds at all times.
However we do not accept that the vast majority of greyhound owners and indeed the wider greyhound industry were portrayed in a fair and balanced light in the RTE Investigates programme which was broadcast last week. The programme contained many inaccuracies and omissions and it also featured stories of cruelty that happened over a decade ago and also horrendous stories of cruelty that did not even happen in Ireland.
In our opinion it was a programme that was heavily biased towards the Animal Extremist agenda. Our dogs come first. This is our mantra, our way of thinking, our heritage, our life and our reason to get up in the morning. Greyhound people will not be found wanting. The IGOBF intends to work closely with trainers, stud keepers, transporters, greyhound vets and rehoming groups and we are already in the process of bringing forward new welfare/rehoming initiatives to our Irish Greyhound Board.
In the coming weeks we expect a massive Anti campaign to try and blacken the good name of all greyhound owners. Indeed Maureen O Sullivan, Independent T.D. has already kicked it off when she claimed; The majority of greyhound owners are abusive towards animals How wrong she is!
The greyhound people are the salt of the earth and love their greyhounds like family. We urge all greyhound owners to speak well of our sport. Stand up for our heritage and do not allow the Antis the opportunity to gain ground with their shaming and bullying tactics. We can fix the problems and we will fix them together. Ni neart go chur le cheile (Unity is strength)

Pat O'Neill Chairperson of the Irish Greyhound Owners and Breeders Federation Theresa Holohan Vice Chairperson, Helen Morris Secretary, Al Hanley Treasurer and Padjoe Dorney PRO.



Tony Gallagher
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06 Jul 2019 08:28


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Thank you Padjoe for your post well done.

"The IGOBF intends to work closely with trainers, stud keepers, transporters, greyhound vets and rehoming groups and we are already in the process of bringing forward new welfare/rehoming initiatives to our Irish Greyhound Board."

Once the details of these initiatives are at the discussion stage please keep our members updated in this thread. There are lot of members on Greyhound-Data with many years of experience in the game that would love to be involved and have input into any decisions or proposals made.


Edward Fisher
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A number of things I would add as this was not an 'investigation' but an outright attack by RTE:

-The vet used in the show is the partner of a prominent RTE figure who has always had a vendetta against greyhound racing. There are numerous photos of them in public holding hands. Hence the completely biased opinions and lies by him.

-RTE video recorded dogs being killed illegally at licensed knackeries. Why was this not reported to the Gardai or Department of Agriculture. Animal Welfare was not on their agenda, they wanted to wow the viewer and allowed dogs to be killed illegally instead to achieve this. I would also question whether the footage was in fact recorded over one week as they say. They could have been filming for god knows how long.

-The historic footage of dogs dumped and ears cut off is not a fair view of the industry in 2019. Every greyhound in Ireland today is microchipped.

-I was surprised to see one semi state body attack another in this manner. It may be significant that RTE are currently making a case for more government funding for themselves.

As a result the sport is being alienated from the misinformed public and meanwhile the IGB roll over and take a kicking. There needs to be a campaign to show all that is good about racing. Also if it's true that the CEO is currently on holidays I would be very concerned.



Brian Loughnane
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06 Jul 2019 09:25


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I would suggest we set up a you tube channel (Greyhound view) get someone like aoife dunphy or aoife Corrigan to do some kennel visits ect high lighting every aspect of the sport and putting it out across social media...

And I would also suggest we do a program on the program that was put out on RTE


Martin James
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06 Jul 2019 12:49


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Edward Fisher wrote:

A number of things I would add as this was not an 'investigation' but an outright attack by RTE:

-The vet used in the show is the partner of a prominent RTE figure who has always had a vendetta against greyhound racing. There are numerous photos of them in public holding hands. Hence the completely biased opinions and lies by him.

-RTE video recorded dogs being killed illegally at licensed knackeries. Why was this not reported to the Gardai or Department of Agriculture. Animal Welfare was not on their agenda, they wanted to wow the viewer and allowed dogs to be killed illegally instead to achieve this. I would also question whether the footage was in fact recorded over one week as they say. They could have been filming for god knows how long.

-The historic footage of dogs dumped and ears cut off is not a fair view of the industry in 2019. Every greyhound in Ireland today is microchipped.

-I was surprised to see one semi state body attack another in this manner. It may be significant that RTE are currently making a case for more government funding for themselves.

As a result the sport is being alienated from the misinformed public and meanwhile the IGB roll over and take a kicking. There needs to be a campaign to show all that is good about racing. Also if it's true that the CEO is currently on holidays I would be very concerned.


Regarding point 4 yes it's unusual for one semi state to attack another but they do want more funding. See last paragraph of linked article. EXTERNAL LINK


Martin James
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06 Jul 2019 15:11


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This is interesting.

RT is obliged under Section 39 (1) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 to ensure that:

(a) all news broadcast is reported and presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of the broadcaster's own views.

(b) the broadcast treatment of current affairs, including matters which are either of public controversy or the subject of current public debate, is fair to all interests concerned and that the broadcast matter is presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of his or her own views, except that should it prove impracticable in relation to a single broadcast to apply this paragraph, two or more related broadcasts may be considered as a whole, if the broadcasts are transmitted within a reasonable period of each other.

(c) anything which may reasonably be regarded as causing harm or offence, or as likely to promote, or incite to, crime or as tending to undermine the authority of the State, is not broadcast .

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In addition to above RT also has its own internal Programme Standards and Guidelines.

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Tony Gallagher
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07 Jul 2019 06:55


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That's great information Martin.

I suggest every person involved in Irish Greyhound Racing Lodges a complaint.

Also it would help if a petition about RTE breaking their own rules was signed at every track and handed to them, it might make take some notice and realised the damage they have done.

Now is the time to act.


Martin James
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07 Jul 2019 07:41


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Yes Tony it's very interesting.

I'd love to know what this gent makes of it all. EXTERNAL LINK


Clive Padwick
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07 Jul 2019 08:07


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martin james wrote:

Yes Tony it's very interesting.

I'd love to know what this gent makes of it all. EXTERNAL LINK

Martin is it possible perhaps under freedom of information legislation to know what salary plus benefit package i.e. company car, pension contributions, expenses etc Mr Nyham and the CEO and other directors receive.


Martin James
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07 Jul 2019 08:59


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Around 150 K for a Semi State CEO I'd say Clive.
Chairman a token sum relatively speaking maybe 10K.Expenses on top obviously.

If the "mother ship" decides to turn the other cheek and not contest this programme we'll it's fair to say there's another agenda out there.



Padjoe Dorney
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07 Jul 2019 10:58


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Here is an idea to help start the ball rolling re the inflated 6,000 dogs that is mentioned to be culled or missing each year. If we all enter on the GD data base for each dog, rehomed or living at home with the owner, possibly a picture or two in their profile. This would be a start until the ICC/IGB gets its system in place similar to the UK for traceability and accountability of our retired dogs. Just a thought.



Tony Gallagher
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07 Jul 2019 12:56


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Hi Padjoe, Great idea, I will open a thread for people to post the names of their dogs they still have at home and we will enter them up which will allow us to put actual numbers together. Hope the IGB will make contact and this can happen now rather than later.




Geoff Bateman
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I wish to raise a complaint regarding the RTE TV programme RTE investigates broadcast on Wednesday 26th June RTE1 at 9.35pm.

This programme goes against your own standards. Please see below. It was not objective nor impartial as the presenter is actively anti the greyhound industry, her partner who was used as an independent vet quoted incorrect information as if he had witnessed EPO thickened blood, he had a duty to report this of, which there is no record.

Historical footage was used for sensationalist purposes of dogs ears cut off ( nobody in the racing industry would do this and all dogs are microchipped in line with the law) and foreign footage shown when there is no evidence that poor dog was even a greyhound never mind an Irish one.

Secret filming of the illegal shooting of dogs at the knackeries. Why did RTE not inform the Gardai or Dept of Agriculture immediately?

RTE is complicit in standing by and allowing this to happen. Have the persons filmed been reported since? They should be banned for life.

You stated the the Irish Greyhound Board declined an interview, this was incorrect as the board agreed to a live interview so that the interview could not be edited or misquoted.

There have been some positive tests for doping and I would seek the IGB to ban any serial offenders.

You claim 6000 unaccounted for dogs, the IGB need to address their system as I have 3 retired dogs here at home which would be on that list.

Biased, certainly not objective nor impartial. There was no reflection on anything positive in racing like the hundreds of thousands of euros being raised for charity, even this very evening at Kilkenny, there is an annual huge fundraising for BEAM.

I love my greyhounds, my greyhounds love to race and I always rehome responsibly. I waited for over 10 months to rehome my last dog, who went to Germany, with the assistance of the IGB.

My kennels are regularly inspected and my dogs live a healthy happy life. I have 3 x 7 years year old retired here and their sons and daughters as well.

I am disgusted, offended and appalled that you wanted to create such a one sided documentary and have tarred an entire community with the same dirty brush.

Yours sincerely Geoff Bateman

RT is obliged under Section 39 (1) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 to ensure that: (a) all news broadcast is reported and presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of the broadcaster's own views. (b) the broadcast treatment of current affairs, including matters which are either of public controversy or the subject of current public debate, is fair to all interests concerned and that the broadcast matter is presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of his or her own views, except that should it prove impracticable in relation to a single broadcast to apply this paragraph, two or more related broadcasts may be considered as a whole, if the broadcasts are transmitted within a reasonable period of each other. (c) anything which may reasonably be regarded as causing harm or offence, or as likely to promote, or incite to, crime or as tending to undermine the authority of the State, is not broadcast . (d) in programmes and in the means employed to make such programmes, the privacy of an individual is not unreasonably encroached upon.




Tony Gallagher
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07 Jul 2019 13:57


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Well said Geoff



Brian Loughnane
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07 Jul 2019 15:38


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Geoff Bateman well done my friend very very well said...


Graham Campbell
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Please can everyone email rte complaints as they broke their own broadcasting rules

[email protected]
I enclose my email but just a line to complain they broke their own rules is good enough.

I wish to raise a complaint regarding the RTE TV programme RTE investigates broadcast on Wednesday 26th June RTE1 at 9.35pm.

This programme goes against your own standards. Please see below.

It was not objective nor impartial. The independent vet quoted incorrect information as if he had witnessed EPO thickened blood, he had a duty to report this of, which there is no record. He is the partner of an RTE news anchor who is publicly anti greyhound racing.

Historical footage was used for sensationalist purposes of dogs ears cut off ( nobody in the racing industry would do this and all dogs are microchipped in line with the law) and foreign footage shown when there is no evidence that poor dog was even a greyhound never mind an Irish one.

Secret filming of the illegal shooting of dogs at the knackeries. Why did Rte not inform the gardai or dept of agriculture immediately? Rte is complicit in standing by and allowing this to happen. Have the persons filmed been reported since? They should be banned for life.

You stated the the greyhound board declined an interview, this was incorrect as the board agreed to a live interview so that the interview could not be edited or misquoted.

There have been some positive tests for doping and I would seek the IGB to ban any serial offenders.

You claim 6000 unaccounted for dogs, the igb need to address their system as I have 2 retired dogs here at home which would be on that list.

Biased, certainly not objective nor impartial. There was no reflection on anything positive in racing like the hundreds of thousands of euros being raised for charity.

I love my greyhounds, my greyhounds love to race and I always rehome responsibly. My kennels are regularly inspected and my dogs live a healthy happy life. I have a 13 year old retired here and her daughter too.

I am disgusted, offended and appalled that you wanted to create such a one sided documentary and have tarred an entire community with the same dirty brush.

Yours sincerely

Linda Campbell

RT is obliged under Section 39 (1) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 to ensure that:

(a) all news broadcast is reported and presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of the broadcaster's own views.

(b) the broadcast treatment of current affairs, including matters which are either of public controversy or the subject of current public debate, is fair to all interests concerned and that the broadcast matter is presented in an objective and impartial manner and without any expression of his or her own views, except that should it prove impracticable in relation to a single broadcast to apply this paragraph, two or more related broadcasts may be considered as a whole, if the broadcasts are transmitted within a reasonable period of each other.

(c) anything which may reasonably be regarded as causing harm or offence, or as likely to promote, or incite to, crime or as tending to undermine the authority of the State, is not broadcast .

(d) in programmes and in the means employed to make such programmes, the privacy of an individual is not unreasonably encroached upon.


Martin James
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If a greyhound manages to pursue and grab a fox while out exercising two things happen in quick succession, the fox bites the dog and the dog then releases the fox. If the fox needs to cover ground to make cover the dog will probably pursue it but won't take it on a second time. They aren't wire haired thick pelted hunting dogs bred over generations and they are not stupid. EXTERNAL LINK
But..... Wild Boar, Porcupines no less, oh i nearly forgot Wolves and Jihadists all in an article about Irish greyhounds


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martin james wrote:

If a greyhound manages to pursue and grab a fox while out exercising two things happen in quick succession, the fox bites the dog and the dog then releases the fox. If the fox needs to cover ground to make cover the dog will probably pursue it but won't take it on a second time. They aren't wire haired thick pelted hunting dogs bred over generations and they are not stupid. EXTERNAL LINK
But..... Wild Boar, Porcupines no less, oh i nearly forgot Wolves and Jihadists all in an article about Irish greyhounds

There was no footage of Irish greyhounds in Pakistan on the rte documentary and the footage on YouTube of wild boar hunting there features what looks like a greyhound mastiff cross.

Utter lies from the Irish times in an attempt to fuel a rather dubious fire. And they have the cheek to look for a subscription fee. Laughable but also cynical and dangerous fake news from that rag.


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