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Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 31 Jan 2021 07:45
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My Final Reply,if the random computer system ISN'T flawed WHO CAN EXPLAIN how can another example continue to happen??
Richmond today; R-6 Greyhound has drawn 7,7,7,7,7,4,4. ( consecutively),at it's last 7 starts ????
Not " hand picked ",simply going thru each dogs full form when i do my race assesments,analysis & my own markets when i am having a punt.
We all know that some dogs perform better when drawn in certain boxes,hence me going thru EVERY dogs box history when assessing EVERY dogs chances.
As I stated,this " phenomenon" doesn't happen to every dog racing,but it occurs regularly,& this is why GRNSW are asking GWIC to investigate the Random Computer Generated Box draws,even though,it was recently done.
Even if there were only 6 dogs in each of this particular dogs races,the likely hood of this occurring would be highly " unlikely ".
Any explanations ??,& don't tell me it's "just bad luck ".
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Jan 2021 08:01
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One hand picked example (of a dog with nearly 100 starts) out 70+ dogs at that meeting, doesn't make it a phenomenon. Interesting yes, but not systemic.
An accute case of Apophenia, if these delusions persist please see a doctor.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 31 Jan 2021 08:53
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Paul Dicks wrote:
One hand picked example (of a dog with nearly 100 starts) out 70+ dogs at that meeting, doesn't make it a phenomenon. Interesting yes, but not systemic.
An accute case of Apophenia, if these delusions persist please see a doctor.
Hey Dixie. I love ya mate but Daryl did state -
daryl barrett wrote:
Not " hand picked ",simply going thru each dogs full form when i do my race assesments,analysis & my own markets when i am having a punt.
So why push his button.
Sometimes you need a rocket up ya.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 31 Jan 2021 08:58
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Ha ha ha ha....hook,line & sinker,shit is that the end of the rod sticking out of your'e mouth,LOL.
Interestingly though,still no offering of a reasonable,valid reason as to how & why this happens,just smart arse replies.
Ponder this ( if you possibly can ),why are GRNSW agreed & going ahead with a independent review & audit ??,I will save you having to use your'e thought process,it is because there have been a hell of a lot of trainers who are concerned about this very question,so many in fact,that it has raised concerns for GRNSW as well.
Also Paul,i noticed you didn't take up the the challenge to pick out 3 races at a NSW track before the box draws came out after Wed this,so we were both going in blind,but no joy....I reckon you were a bit worried that I would find more examples.
Paul,i think it's fair to say," we will agree to disagree " on this one.
Perhaps we can take this back up after GWIC do their inquiry.
See ya Snapper
Paul Dicks wrote:
One hand picked example (of a dog with nearly 100 starts) out 70+ dogs at that meeting, doesn't make it a phenomenon. Interesting yes, but not systemic.
An accute case of Apophenia, if these delusions persist please see a doctor.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Jan 2021 09:04
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"Apophenia is the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things. ... Apophenia has come to imply a human propensity to seek patterns in random information, such as gambling".
"Humanshave a tendency tosee patternseverywhere. That's important when making decisions and judgments and acquiring knowledge; we tend to be uneasy with chaos and chance. Unfortunately, that same tendency tosee patternsin everything can lead to seeing things that don't exist."
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Jan 2021 09:07
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steven martin wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
One hand picked example (of a dog with nearly 100 starts) out 70+ dogs at that meeting, doesn't make it a phenomenon. Interesting yes, but not systemic.
An accute case of Apophenia, if these delusions persist please see a doctor.
Hey Dixie. I love ya mate but Daryl did state -
daryl barrett wrote:
Not " hand picked ",simply going thru each dogs full form when i do my race assesments,analysis & my own markets when i am having a punt.
So why push his button.
Sometimes you need a rocket up ya.
He might have stated he didn't hand pick but it's precisely what he did.
Steven Martin Australia (Verified User) Posts 7681 Dogs 180 / Races 66 31 Jan 2021 09:31
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Paul Dicks wrote:
He might have stated he didn't hand pick but it's precisely what he did.
No he didn't as he gave a very ligament reason. If Daryl had not stated that, I'm with you till ya drop.
Your shout.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 31 Jan 2021 09:53
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Don't worry about it Steve,just Dicky's cynical opinion,as I said,i do my own assesments, analysis and my own markets when i punt,& also go back thru EVERY runners box draw history as part of that process,so I guess I would see this more than Snapper...maybe he only looks at their last 3 runs,who knows.
But you know what,he's entitled to his opinionated opinion.
PS,..He isn t related to Brucie is he,...nah he couldn't be,at least Brucie had the ability to look at things with a broader & open mind,LOL.
steven martin wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
One hand picked example (of a dog with nearly 100 starts) out 70+ dogs at that meeting, doesn't make it a phenomenon. Interesting yes, but not systemic.
An accute case of Apophenia, if these delusions persist please see a doctor.
Hey Dixie. I love ya mate but Daryl did state -
daryl barrett wrote:
Not " hand picked ",simply going thru each dogs full form when i do my race assesments,analysis & my own markets when i am having a punt.
So why push his button.
Sometimes you need a rocket up ya.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 31 Jan 2021 09:58
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I am starting to wonder if your'e surname begins with " H " Snapper.
Paul Dicks wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
One hand picked example (of a dog with nearly 100 starts) out 70+ dogs at that meeting, doesn't make it a phenomenon. Interesting yes, but not systemic.
An accute case of Apophenia, if these delusions persist please see a doctor.
Hey Dixie. I love ya mate but Daryl did state -
daryl barrett wrote:
Not " hand picked ",simply going thru each dogs full form when i do my race assesments,analysis & my own markets when i am having a punt.
So why push his button.
Sometimes you need a rocket up ya.
He might have stated he didn't hand pick but it's precisely what he did.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 31 Jan 2021 11:03
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steven martin wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
He might have stated he didn't hand pick but it's precisely what he did.
No he didn't as he gave a very ligament reason. If Daryl had not stated that, I'm with you till ya drop.
Your shout.
Ligament?
He gave one selective example of his theory and failed to mention the 70+ that don't. If that isn't hand picked I don't think you know the definition of hand picked is.
Daryl Barrett Australia (Verified User) Posts 1739 Dogs 1 / Races 0 31 Jan 2021 18:34
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Snapper get over youreself,i mentioned a few times that ; " NOT EVERY DOG ", but the FACT IS that it IS happening ya Dick, & this is what this is about,AGAIN PAUL...not every dog,but enough to cause concern.
It shouldn't be occurring at all....still waiting for your'e logical reason to it,& now you are having a little " dummy spit " at Steve...grow up,if you disagree ( which is obvious ),i don't have any issue with that,i don't need people agreeing with me to make me feel smart or empowered Snapper.
You are quick to throw around medical diagnosis's,whilst be able to read peoples minds from afar whilst gazing into your'e crystal ball,so I am sure you know all about this one...NARCISSIST.
Who knows Paul,maybe you could add something constructive to this thread,but I doubt it.
As I said Snapper,i agree to disagree,we are all entitled to are opinions,& if we don't like or agree with someone's opinion,thats ok,but instead of being a SMART ARSE,don't read the thread...it's easy...try it.
Paul Dicks wrote:
steven martin wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
He might have stated he didn't hand pick but it's precisely what he did.
No he didn't as he gave a very ligament reason. If Daryl had not stated that, I'm with you till ya drop.
Your shout.
Ligament?
He gave one selective example of his theory and failed to mention the 70+ that don't. If that isn't hand picked I don't think you know the definition of hand picked is.
Malcolm Smart Australia (Verified User) Posts 12802 Dogs 19 / Races 34 01 Feb 2021 09:21
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Should of took notice of my previous post , Re Smart Arse....
Just adding to this topic, without inviting the clown..!!, Have a look at the dog for sale, Thirsty Friday, 34 starts not one box 1 ....
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 17 Sep 2022 22:49
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I say bring back the old paper Nominations when you could attach a $50 to it and be sure you got the box you wanted.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 17 Sep 2022 22:58
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The next dog on the For Sale page the litter brother Gold Mate has had a third of his starts from box 1. It's just good or bad luck plain and simple, it happens. I think some of you have been brainwashed by all this Trump conspiracy theory rhetoric.
The next dog on the For Sale page the litter brother Gold Mate has had a third of his starts from box 1. It's just good or bad luck plain and simple, it happens. I think some of you have been brainwashed by all this Trump conspiracy theory rhetoric.
races of Gold Mate view overview overview no trials full Date v Stadium Dist m/y Grade Dogs Trap Stime Posts Fin Comment Pts Sp kg Winner WinTm Time ETime Form Film 15 SEP 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 7D T7 11.15 2nd $3.60 Bungaloo Brooke 23.37 23.40 23.40 85 8 SEP 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 8D T7 11.27 4th $4.40 Barefoot Rebel 23.13 23.78 23.78 60 14 AUG 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Mixe 7D T8 11.43 7th $26.00 Aston Marlon 23.21 23.76 23.76 61 31 JUL 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Mixe 5D T4 10.99 2nd $7.00 Blackjack Tiger 23.11 23.29 23.29 92 23 JUL 2022 Geelong 400 / 437 GR Grad 8D T2 8.57 23 4th $8.50 Righteous Bale 22.62 23.12 23.12 59 17 JUL 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Mixe 6D T7 10.95 4th $3.60 Recapture Time 23.34 23.48 23.48 80 10 JUL 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Mixe 8D T3 10.98 2nd $8.50 Aston Percival 23.05 23.21 23.21 98 3 JUL 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Grad 8D T1 10.81 1st $4.20 Gold Mate 23.21 23.21 23.21 98 26 JUN 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Grad 6D T1 10.77 1st $5.50 Gold Mate 23.17 23.17 23.17 100 16 JUN 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 6D T1 10.80 1st $2.90F Gold Mate 23.37 23.37 23.37 87 26 MAY 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 8D T1 10.96 4th $3.20 Mr. Bellagio 23.30 23.51 23.51 78 5 MAY 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 8D T8 11.13 5th $10.00 Lubbock Lad 23.27 23.63 23.63 70 12 APR 2022 Geelong 400 / 437 GR Mixe 8D T4 8.49 12 2nd $6.70 Inside Job 22.51 22.82 22.82 79 7 APR 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 7D T8 11.31 5th $7.00 Compton Banjo 23.37 23.72 23.72 64 15 MAR 2022 Geelong 400 / 437 GR Mixe 6D T1 8.52 12 2nd $2.40F Mayfair Ronnie 23.07 23.18 23.18 55 3 MAR 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 7D T4 11.04 6th $6.50 Correlate 23.13 23.45 23.45 82 27 FEB 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Grad 6D T7 11.80 4th $5.00 Galactic Dreamer 23.79 24.67 24.67 17 FEB 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 8D T6 11.02 3rd $4.20 Trademark Bourne 23.32 23.45 23.45 82 10 FEB 2022 Mount Gambier 400 / 437 GR Rest 8D T5 10.93 2nd $8.00 Lubbock Lad 23.29 23.36 23.36 88 6 FEB 2022 Mount Gambier 305 / 334 MAIDEN 4D T6 5.87 1st $2.20F Gold Mate 17.89 17.89 17.89 76 31 DEC 2021 Richmond 330 / 361 MAIDEN 8D T1 4.61 621 2nd $2.30F Pretty Classy 19.46 19.55 19.55 24 DEC 2021 Richmond 330 / 361
Failed to mention that there was CONSECUTIVE box 1 draws not mention consecutive box 1 draws at its first two starts. There is another pattern in there too...ohh hang on a minute,just bad or good luck...right.
No conspiracy theories,just facts...in black & white.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 17 Sep 2022 23:52
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Daryl Barrett wrote:
Paul Dicks wrote:
The next dog on the For Sale page the litter brother Gold Mate has had a third of his starts from box 1. It's just good or bad luck plain and simple, it happens. I think some of you have been brainwashed by all this Trump conspiracy theory rhetoric.
There is another pattern in there too...ohh hang on a minute,just bad or good luck...right.
That's exactly right Daz, good boy now you are getting the hang of it. Great to see your common sense is finally prevailing. Well done son.
The next dog on the For Sale page the litter brother Gold Mate has had a third of his starts from box 1. It's just good or bad luck plain and simple, it happens. I think some of you have been brainwashed by all this Trump conspiracy theory rhetoric.
Failed to mention that there was CONSECUTIVE box 1 draws not mention consecutive box 1 draws at its first two starts. There is another pattern in there too...ohh hang on a minute,just bad or good luck...right.
No conspiracy theories,just facts...in black & white.
There is another pattern in there too...ohh hang on a minute,just bad or good luck...right.
That's exactly right Daz, good boy now you are getting the hang of it. Great to see your common sense is finally prevailing. Well done son.
Paul Dicks Australia (Verified User) Posts 10281 Dogs 120 / Races 252 18 Sep 2022 02:07
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Did you see how I selectively took some of your reply to suit my argument? That's exactly what this thread is the based on.
Do you have questions about greyhound racing?
