This may be his best prep yet

Thanks Howard.

Chased her clacker off to get the job done.

Congrats Sandro.

Tell the racer caller he needs to brush up on
his Italian Sandro......

Congrats mate.

Thanks Tony

I have it on good authority that there is some Italian blood in the pedigree

Any of the next (My Bro Fabio) litter showing any promise?

Nice trial at Wenty on Saturday.

Telling you nothing you and most don't know; but she's GOOD.

You have to be a little bit excited.

Yep, a little

Some questions, you being the owner of one of the most promising young stayers in the land, that I'd like to ask you (and Jeff Holland regarding his past champs) if I ever got the chance to sit down with you guys and have quite little drink.

I understand if you don't wish to respond, but in these days of 300 metre rockets (and I appreciate your girl is bred on staying lines);

1) Did you breed the litter on the hopes of getting a stayer?

2) Where were they reared?

3) At what age were they broken-in?

4) Where were they broken-in?

5) Did your girl run time at break-in?

6) If so, what did she run?

7) Was there a stand-out in the litter, either during rearing or education?

8) Conversely, was there a sibling who has improved much more than you ever expected?

I ask the above because I've never owned more than a "half-decent" stayer, and I'd love to know whether her talent was obvious from day one - or whether she was a slow maturer who just bloomed as she got a little older.

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No. You can see the mating, I am sure you are well qualified to work it out

Well I did look quickly awhile ago when she first started and there wasn't anything glaringly obvious from a Tesio perspective, which is what interested me and why I asked.

The term 'calculated formula' in the article was something else that also interested me, as that's pretty much what I involve myself in with pedigrees with Tesio and x path.

Sorry to have taken up your time.

Qualified?

Hi Ryan

Ok to answer your question

The term 'calculated formula' was a bit of poetic licence from the author of the article but what it refers to is a calculation based on my own sire and proven nick statistics

I don't use Tesio, I don't use X/Y sex balancing, I don't fully understand your Cornerstone theory and how it provides superior performers, and I don't use any other fancy theory

I have been keeping my own 'results-based statistics' on sires of litters that have produced superior performers charting the proven nicks in a mating for over 10 years now and have my own statistics for every sire that has sired what I consider to be qualifying winner

This entails going through the results of every race run in Australia and NZ every day and applying my time standards to each race win

I disregard results of any races under 440m as I am not looking to breed short coursers, even though its no guarantee you can get a stayer with the way our bloodlines are moving

The statistics are over 2 distance ranges, above 440m & then I segregate the 600m above results into different spreadsheets

I have been refining and modifying my stats over a number of years

Every sire thus has 2 spreadsheets with the matings that have produced the qualifying winner

I then chart the sires in the first 3 lines of the pedigree and eventually come up with the most common nicks

Thus over a period of now 10 years I have developed my own nick rating per sire and have a pretty good indication of which outcrosses and which local lines have been proven to work with which sires over multiple matings

I have ratings for virtually for every sire in Australia and NZ for the last 10 years

I apply those nick ratings across the first 3 generations of the pedigree of the dam and then also back from the dam into the sires first 3 lines of the pedigree

Then I come up with a group of sires which are split into 4 categories - Established (progeny over 3 years), first season (progeny under 3 years old), Freshman (no runners yet), Imported Sires

From there I take the top rated in each category, I look at the racing traits of my own female, i.e. her distance range, early speed, stamina, did she pass dogs on the rail or take them out wide, her size and her temperament and importantly her keenness to chase, I don't mind if a bitch was aggressive, as long as she wasn't a non-chaser

If I know the sires temperament it helps

From that range of higher pedigree based rating sires I will then I apply all those traits for my bitch to what I think the sire will add to the table and Then I make a judgement call from there

If I want to add stamina I will use the 600m+ ratings, if I want to add more early pace I will use the 440m+ ratings

The process of keeping stats is very labour intensive the way i do it

The nick ratings for the bitch's pedigree can take me 2 days to do for a bitch as I consider every sire available , not just the 4 or5 flavour of the month sires or the latest new unproven kid on the block

There has to be reasons to use them

Commerciality does play a part in the decision making, sometimes the best mating is very uncommercial and If I was a PAW or Borda operation then that would be my choice but as I am only a hobby breeder I have to keep the commercial angle in play but it will be the best commercial option available

Its probably a bit too simple for you Ryan, but its what I understand and I only do this for myself

If anyone wanted me to do a full analysis given the time I spend doing this work it would cost in the range of $1,000 to $2,000 per mating thus its not offered as I know that no one would want to pay for it

I am not re-inventing the wheel, just modifying it to suit my purposes

The inspiration for what I do came from Razordot's stats on AGF that he no longer does and also from listening to PAW and studying his matings